Why Atheists Don't Believe
By Paul Baylis, Editor Marian Times.
A reply to Austin Cline's Article at: http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutatheism/p/whynotbelieve.htm
In this article, Austin Cline simply reels off a few of the
main reasons he thinks atheists would respond to the question
"Why don't you believe?"
Austin's writing is in normal black font,
mine is in red.
Multiple Gods and Religious Traditions:
It is difficult to credit any one religion as being True or
any one god as being True when there have been so many throughout
human history. None appears to have any greater claim to being
more credible or reliable than any other. Why Christianity
and not Judaism? Why Islam and not Hinduism? Why monotheism
and not polytheism? Every position has had its defenders,
all as ardent as those in other traditions. They can't all
be right, but they can all be wrong.
Forget about religion, which is purely
man's forum for worship. Look at the bigger picture. The issue
is whether God exists in the first place. Pretend we're in
the Garden of Eden. From the perspective of Christian religions,
confusion even existed so soon after Christ's ascension into
Heaven, when Peter and Paul couldn't agree on whether gentiles
should be allowed to have access to God. What chance do WE
have to get it 100% right these days?
Contradictory Characteristics in Gods:
Theists often claim that their gods are perfect beings; they
describe gods, however, in contradictory and incoherent ways.
Numerous characteristics are attributed to their gods, some
of which are impossible and some combinations of which are
impossible. As described, it's unlikely or impossible for
these gods to exist. This doesn't mean that no god could possibly
exist, just that the ones theists claim to believe in don't.
See above. The ways we describe God
cannot be perfect until we see and know God perfectly. This
is not enough reason by anybody's standards to not believe
in a god.
Religion in Self-Contradictory:
No religion is perfectly consistent when it comes to doctrines,
ideas, and history. Every ideology, philosophy, and cultural
tradition has inconsistencies and contradictions, so this
shouldn't be surprising — but other ideologies and traditions
aren't alleged to be divinely created or divinely sanctioned
systems for following the wishes of a god. The state of religion
in the world today is more consistent with the premise that
they are man-made institutions.
See above. Confusion between religions
and ideologies have existed since the beginning. As with all
the above arguments, this objection is similar to an argument
which posits throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Gods Are Too Similar to Believers:
A few cultures, like ancient Greece, have postulated gods
which appear to be as natural as human beings, but in general
gods are supernatural. This means that they are fundamentally
different from human beings or anything on earth. Despite
this, however, theists consistently describe their gods in
ways that make the supernatural appear almost mundane. Gods
share so many characteristics with humans that it has been
argued that gods were made in the image of man.
See all of the above!
Gods Just Don't Matter:
Theism means believing in the existence of at least one god,
not that one necessarily cares much about any gods. In practice,
though, theists typically place a great deal of importance
on their god and insist that it and what it wants are the
most important things a person can be concerned with. Depending
upon the nature of a god, however, this isn't necessarily
true. It's not obvious that the existence or desires of gods
should matter to us.
This is probably closer to the truth
as a reason for unbelief. It would be interesting to get a
demographic on atheists, but I dare to suggest that most atheists
are feeling comfortable with the idea of material life being
sufficient as the means to achieving all their innermost needs
and desires, feeling no need for anything deeper than the
basic human functions and goals - work, sex, money, lifestyle,
power, peer recognition, etc. Driven by this energy to extract
from the material life what they feel will give them the most
satisfaction, they likely wouldn't feel any need (or have
the time) to explore any possible spiritual side to their
existence. How many comfortable atheists have felt the need,
for example, to learn about the events at Fatima or Medjugorje,
where miracles seem to attest to there actually being a God.
That's just one example. There's a lot out there to explore
in the way of the supernatural. But atheists just don't manage
to find the time....until something happens in their lives,
or until their list of things they thought would provide genuine
lasting satisfaction gets shorter and shorter as they get
older and wiser.
Gods and Believers Behave Immorally:
In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all
morality. For most believers, their religion represents an
institution for promoting perfect morality. In reality, though,
religions are responsible for widespread immorality and gods
have characteristics or histories which make them worse than
the most vile human serial killer. No one would tolerate such
behavior on the part of a person, but when with a god it all
becomes laudable — even an example to follow.
I can't understand the logic here.
We need backup for these statements that God or believers
are not moral. We have to allow for some human weakness within
organisations, so I hope the writer isn't feeling tempted
to get the tar brush out.
Evil in the World:
Closely associated with taking action that should be considered
immoral is the fact that there is so much evil in the world
today. If there are any gods, why don't they act to eliminate
it? The absence of substantive action against evil would be
consistent with the existence of evil or at least indifferent
gods, which is not impossible, but few people believe in such
gods. Most claim that their gods are loving and powerful;
the suffering on Earth, makes their existence implausible.
Evil in the world is the result of
man's actions, not God's. God imbued man with a basic sense
of right and wrong. Atheists like to point out, in their defence
against needing a set of rules provided by a deity, that they
basically know what is right and wrong. The evil is as a result
of man's disobedience to his own conscience. Furthermore,
the situation may be more complicated than the simplification
that God should automatically create a heaven-on-earth scenario.
Many believers take the view that we are here for the short-term
compared to our eternal afterlife. How we react to the evil
in the world, whether we help cause it, what type of an influence
we are in the midst of it, all contribute to how we spend
eternity. Thus, evil, though undesirable in itself (though
we should note that certain people thrive on chaos and evil),
can be a mode for good. Take the "evil" of famine.
How many people contribute to charities that help alleviate
famine? If every well-off person contributed something, if
governments ceased corruption and self-serving, famine could
be alleviated if not eliminated.
Faith is Unreliable:
A common characteristic of both theism and religion is their
reliance on faith: belief in the existence of god and in the
truth of religious doctrines is neither founded upon nor defended
by logic, reason, evidence, or science. Instead, people are
supposed to have faith — a position they wouldn’t
consciously adopt with just about any other issue. Faith,
though, is an unreliable guide to reality or means for acquiring
knowledge.
Faith in God takes account of a possible
afterlife. We have very good reason to suspect that we will
still exist in spirit after we physically die. Most believers
have this possibility foremost in their minds. It is isn't
a matter of whether faith helps us gain more knowledge. There
are already enough day-to-day things to learn, such as how
to love our neighbours and be better citizens, not to mention
our educational and professional learning requirements. Faith
simply takes account of a perceived likehood that when we
die we will face a supreme being who will demand an account
of our earthly existence. This has been borne out, for example,
by the many high-profile near-death experiences. And there
are other pointers to an eternal afterlife. At its worst,
faith is an insurance policy. At its best, faith is a way
to come close to our creator and become better human beings
in the process. Faith is for people who question life's purpose,
who doubt that we can just "exist" and then become
plant fertilizer. I would go so far as to say that Faith is
for the true free-thinkers, those who allow themselves to
believe they will live on in spirit, those who see science
in its place - a discoverer of the greatness of the Creator,
and whose level of thought is not limited to the progress
science may have made thus far in this discovery.
Life is Material, not Supernatural:
Most religions say that life is much more than the flesh and
matter we see around us. In addition, there is supposed to
be some sort of spiritual or supernatural realm behind it
all and that our "true selves" is spiritual, not
material. All evidence, though, points to life being a purely
natural phenomenon. All evidence indicates that who we really
our — our selves — is material and dependent upon
the workings of the brain. If this is so, religious and theistic
doctrines are wrong.
What we see with our eyes is certainly
material but not the less incredible for this physical aspect,
as science is discovering and, in the process, beginning to
show more tendency to believe could not be as a result of
the chance nature of evolution. Besides, as stated above,
there is plenty of anecdotal evidence pointing to there being
a spiritual realm. The writer perhaps has not felt the need
to study, for example, the phenomenon of Marian apparitions,
so prevalent in these times. There are plenty of areas of
study the writer can delve into. Why not take a closer look
at paranormal phenomenon if this is a more desirable starting
point than religious phenomenon per se. This presupposes,
however, that he doesn't fall into the category of the "comfortable,
can't be bothered, don't see the need" atheist.
There is No Good Reason to Bother Believing:
Perhaps the most important and common reason for not believing
in any gods and for not following any religions is the absence
of any good reason for doing so. All of the above are decent
reasons for not believing and are common reasons for questioning
— and eventually leaving — whatever theistic and
religious beliefs a person might have had in the past.
Once a person gets beyond the bias in favor of belief, though,
they can realize something critical: the burden of support
lies with those claiming that belief is rational and/or necessary.
Believers fail to meet this burden, however, and as a consequence
fail to provide any really good reasons to accept their claims.
As a consequence, those who don't already believe and/or who
are not biased in favor of belief aren't given a reason to
start.
Given the fact that the burden of support lies first and
foremost with those making the positive the claim —
the theistic, religious believers — then non-believers
don't necessarily need reasons not to believe. They are helpful,
to be sure, but they aren't particularly necessary. Instead,
what is required are reasons to believe.
The question "Why don't you believe?" is a request
for justification from the nonbeliever; the response "I
haven't seen any good reason to bother believing" returns
the need for justification back to the believer where it belongs.
Too often, believers fail to realize that their position is
the one which needs defending and perhaps this can help them
begin to understand that.
As stated above, there is quite compelling
anecdotal evidence, for example through near death experiences,
for an afterlife where it is suggested that we will undergo
some form of "life review". Believers are sober
and thoughtful enough to realise the difference between 70
years of earthly life and a possible ETERNITY of spiritual
life.
I'm not saying necessarily that atheists
are shallow, but I feel that atheists who see no reason to
believe simply haven''t stretched their minds, studies and
observations far enough in the spiritual direction to find
and analyse quite good possible reasons (and by analyse, I
mean by themselves with their own minds, not just leap on
the first excuse to not believe that they might find in a
detraction article on infidels.org). Possible reasons to look
further into include a huge number of testimonies, theories
and events. There are plenty that are apparently credible
enough to demand a closer look, at least in order to rule
them out once and for all.
Blindness and ignorance to what is
out there, coupled with a comfortable conviction that the
physical realm will satisfy all needs and desires are the
reason why the comfortable atheists say that they find no
reason to believe in God.
I'm not saying that atheists are slovenly
in their studies as it is true that many excel in the field
of science. However, if many had studied enough, they would
note the more than distinct possibility that the universe
was indeed created by a supreme being; at least it is a strong
argument that it is more credible that the universe had a
creator than the universe did NOT.
So, the question "Why don't you
believe?" presupposes that the atheist is open enough
and has least enough energy to study what evidence IS ACTUALLY
OUT THERE to support the existence of God. Anyone who refuses
to do this and who instead prefers to embrace the first opportunity
to shift the burden of proof isn't even worth asking "Why
don't you believe?". These types of people just need
to be left alone to get older and wiser. Right now, they don't
care and they feel they don't need to care.
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