Philip Pavich Against the Poem of the Man-God
I find it very interesting.....that a person should,
as they say, protesteth too loudly about something no-one
has officially condemned. We see it with the Medjugorje
apparitions, through the writings of such entities as
Unity Publishing, where we see an earnest digging for
anything resembling evidence against the validity of
the apparitions. This page shows another example of
an excessive earnestness to completely destroy something
in a manner that completely disregards any good whatsoever.
To me, this smells of evil. There is no peace or constructive/objective
level-headedness in such writings and, because of the
lack of objectivity, people read it half feeling they
are being sold on something against their will. Thus,
it breeds confusion and ill-feeling. And because of
the blanket condemnation, there is no middle ground,
where for example, a reasoning person can reject the
bad, while retaining the good. Thus, such attempts at
destruction are conceived in evil and the resulting
fruits are wholly evil.
What makes it worse is that Father Pavich has, by his
own admission, never read the book.
The following presents reactions to Philip Pavich's
arguments against Maria Valtorta's Poem of the Man-God,
followed by his actual arguments.
Go directly to his arguments
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND REACTION
Source: http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=apar-l&D=0&T=0
Ahh yes, Fr. Philip Pavich. I have read of his opposition
to the Poem long ago. In all charity, I must say that
Fr. Pavich must have been reading another book called
the Poem of the Man God with an author by the same name.
Because if he was reading the same five volume set that
I am familiar with, he never would have made the statements
that he did. For example, Maria Valtorta was
no channeller. She received visions and dictations from
Christ, that is true, as other saints in the Church's
history have such as Sr. Faustina. Indeed, her cause
is being curently championed for
Beatification. If Father Pavich has read the complete
work, he would have realized that the Jesus in Maria
Valtorta's work strongly disapproved of dabling in the
occult as was expressed more than once.
Anyways, these charges were easily refuted by Fr.
Roman Danylak, Chancellor of the Toronto Eparchy and
Consultor of the Pontifical Commission for the revision
of Eastern Canon Law. He
holds a License in Sacred Theology and Doctorates in
both Canon and Civil Law from the Pontifical University
in Rome. He writes: "There was and is nothing morally,
theologically or scripturally
objectionable, nothing that is contrary to Church teaching
or is opposed to the authority of the Church in her
[Maria Valtorta's] works. This was the conclusion of
the several authorities that I
have adduced as well, also, of the censors of her works
who were responsible for the article in the Osservatore
Romano of 1960" [Therefore, even the authors who
attacked Maria Valtorta's work
admit that there was nothing contrary to Church teaching
in the work.]
and
"I have studied "The Poem" in depth,
not only in its English translation, but in the original
Italian edition with the critical notes of Fr. Berti.
I affirm their theological soundness and I welcome the
scholarship of Fr. Berti and his critical apparatus
to the Italian edition of the works. I have further
studied in their original Italian the 'quaderni"
or notebooks of Maria Valtorta for the years from 1943
to 1950. And I want to affirm the theological orthodoxy
of the writings of Maria Valtorta."
and
"In concluding this somewhat lengthy exposition,
I want to share some of my personal experiences. Notwithstanding
various claims to the contrary, theologians of authority,
scripture scholars, who have studied the Poem, confirm
the accuracy of her descriptions of place, geography,
her accurate knowledge of the Holy Land, etc. And we
must remember that Maria Valtorta did not have the health
nor the oppurtunity to study or to correlate her observations.
Reading the 5 volumes in English or the ten volumes
in Italian, I was overwhelmed by her mastery not only
of poetic composition, but of details, of personages,
of the events in the Gospel story. I
find significant confirmation of the many characters
of apostles, disciples, penitents, etc. mentioned not
only in Scripture, but in the liturgical and patristic
tradition of the Church in the
Byzantine tradition. Her characters are not imaginary,
as I suspect of the characters of the narration of another
visionary and mystic, Catherine Emmerich, but real people,
whose identity is
confirmed by the Fathers and the liturgical feasts of
the byzantine Church... We further find in the accounts
of Maria Valtorta answers to many of the scriptural
questions that have been hashed and rehashed by scripture
scholars and theologians for centuries, because of the
Resurrection accounts of the synoptics and the Gospel
of St. John. Lastly Maria Valtorta presents one of
the most vivid, beautiful, living and convincing images
of the living Jesus that I have ever encountered. Countless
readers have found a deeper understanding of their faith
and a more profound understanding of the canonical scriptures
of the NT. The Poem of the Man-God merits serious study.
--- I also strongly urge that all the critics obtain
and study "the Poem of the Man-God", reading
it in it's entirety, and not relying on cursory impressions
or the rehash of other critics."
The following authorities are cited in eccleiastical
scholarship that positively attest to the Poem:
Cardinal Agostion Bea, Archbishop Carinci, secretary
for the Congregation for Saints, Mons. Ugo Lattanzi;
Prof Camillo Corsanego, concistorial advocate for the
causes of saints; Frs. Corrado Berti, Romualdo Migliorini,
Gabriel Roschini, all theologians or canonists and professors
at Pontifical Universities to name a few.
In addition, Fr. Al Winshman, SJ writes in a letter
to Fr. Pavich dated March 3, 1992 refuting him:
"I am distressed by the inclusion of my name in
your letters regarding the condemnation of the Poem
of the Man-God which you are having sent out to all
the Medjugorje centers here in the US.
The paragraph in your Febuary 2 letter, for example,
which mentions me as supporting your condmenation of
the Poem was without my knowledge and consent, and I
find it offensive in its
inaccuracy. Please, Phil, do not use my name any further
in any of your materical regarding the reported revelation
granted to Maria Valtorta. To clarify our day together
on October 4th in Medjugorge, I indeed was very interested
in learning more of your objections to the Poem and
discovering what evidence you might have for your publically
speaking against this work which has been a tremendous
grace to many, including myself. I was anxious to get
documentation, so that I might pursue it. If I seemed
to "finally plead for copies of the condemnation
papers' on October 4th, as you mentioned in your November
2nd 'Appeal', it was more because I felt put off until
the end of the day. I was in agreement with you on the
New Age material, but in disagreement with you in
seeing Valttorta's works in the way you were taking
them. That day, based on the 1959 condemnation, I stopped
using and promoting The Poem until I could examine the
case further. I
regret now that I put my group in confusion in relaying
that evening of October 4 what you had shared with me,
beofre I could research it further. I certainly was
not about to let this material 'trickle out through
Fr. Al Winsham' as you wrote in your Febrary 2nd 'Appeal'.
The meditated Rosary cassettes, in which I drew in part
from The Poem were published by RUAH, for they found
nothing against faith or morals in my mediations, and
videis are planned for the fall. So this statement of
your Febrary 2nd appeal letter is not correct either.
When I got back to Boston, I immediately sought further
information from Catholic Churchmen and prefessional
theologians. It was interesting that all thsoe whom
I approached who had read
The Poem were very favorable and spoke of the good fruit
many were deriving from it. Those who passed a negative
judgment or went back to the 1959 condemnation which
was abrograted with the Index in 1966, all admitted
that they didn't know anythig about the work or had
not read it.
A major ecclesiastical argument I favor of Maria Valtorta's
works, which you have not treated, is Fr. Gabriel M
Roschii's "The Blessed Virgin Mary According to
the Writings of Maria Valtorta
(1973). Fr. Roschini was professor at the 'Marianum',
Pontifical Faculty of Theology in Rome, and a well-known
Mariologist and author of 130 books. He stated in 1972:
'I must candidly admit that the Mariology found in Maria
Valtorta's writings, whether published or not, has been
for me a real discovery. No other Marian writing, not
even the sum total of all the writings I have read and
studied, were able to give me as clear, as lively, as
complete, as luminous, or as fascinating an image, both
simple and sublime, of Mary, God's masterpiece.' Also
there are very many other statements in praise of Valtorta's
The Poem of the Man God given in 'Il Bollettino Valtortiano'.
"The pastoral advice which I received from an Archbiship
who has read and supports The Poem comes from a statment
of Pope Paul VI that we are not to keep people away
from reported private
revelations except for errors in faith and morals, of
which he finds none in "The Poem". A theologian
put it this way to me: use Sacred Scripture as your
guide: If The Poem helps your prayer, etc. use it. Certainly
it is not condemned today, nor is it a matter of obedience
to Church authority. Discern the fruits and be cautious
of anything against the faith and morals."
...
Thus in conclusion, Phil, in light of the abrogation
of the Index and the Canons regarding Private Reveleation,
until the positive arguments, and they are many, in
praise of the writings of Maria Valtorta are addressed
and a current statement is made by the Church, I do
not find it objectionalbe to read and use the works
of Maria Valtorta, The Poem of the Man-God specifically,
and have been pastorally advised that this is an appropriate
stance within the Chuch.
Peace,
Fr. Al
This sounds like excellent advice to me. I do not have
time at the moment, but Fr. Roman and others have given
a point by point refutation of each of Fr. Pavich's
objections. If there is
sufficient interest, I might consider typeing it by
hand some weekend. In conclusion, however, I find it
extremely sad that Fr. Pavich's article was ever published
given that he has never, by his own admission, read
the book or plans to do so. Flipping to certain passages
and taking them out of context does not do much to enhance
their position. I hope that everyone on this list will
read "The Poem of the Man-God" (if they are
interested) and decide for themselves whether Fr. Pavich's
attack on the Poem was remotely warranted.
By the way, as far as I know this book was not written
by auto-rithmic writing. Still, if it is written by
auto-rithmic writing, Vasula's book (which is known
to be written by auto writing) is also demonic ? The
children at Fatima and Bernedette at Lourdes were also
accused of seeing demons before they were approved.
Sister Faustina was also condemned until recently. I
hope we'd better let the readers decide as the Pope
said.
There are many more positive attestations to the Poem
of the Man God than the two negatives of Fr. Pawca and
Pavich. Just food for thought...
...this labeling of Maria Valtorta's writing as channelling
is pure nonsense. Maria Valtorta consiously wrote what
she did. When she stated (taken out of context) "that
I have no human source to be able to know what I write,
and what, even while writing, I often do not understand",
she was stating that since Jesus was dictating to her
some of what she wrote, that the knowledge came from
Jesus and she really didn't quite understand everything
He told her to write. Consider, for example, if Bernadette
understood what the term Immaculate Conception meant
when Mary told her who she was? Was Bernadette channelling?
Then the majority of Maria Valtorta's work was in describing
visions that she saw. Obviously, if the visions were
a fragment of her immagination, one would expect to
find a basis for them in her life experience. What she
is saying is that the visions were external (from Jesus)
and not a figment of her immagination. Again, this has
nothing to do with channelling or New Age Phenomena
but old Catholic Mysticism.
I would be interested to know how Fr. Pavich's opinion
constitutes "Church judgement". As stated
before, the placing of Maria's Valtorta's book on the
Index had nothing to do with heresy as even
the censor's of the 1960 OR article acknowledge.
Naji,
You write:
> Nevertheless, no work ever, no matter how Holy
it is, can take precedence
> to the Holy Obedience to the Magesterium of the
Church and the Pope. This
> Holy Obedience is asked of all the faithful without
justification. It is
> unconditional. When Padre Pio was forbidden from
celebrating mass for 10,
> he obeyed. Today He is blessed and many will be
most likely canonized.
> The same holds for Sister Faustina.
Where did you ever get the notion that the Magesterium
or the Pope wish for us not to read this book? First
of all, Pope Pius XII explcitly gave his Imprimatur
and wishes that this book be
published. Now, on Febuary 26, 1948 before three witnesses
(Fr. Corrado Berti, Fr. Andrea Cecchin who is still
alive today, and Fr. Romualdo Miglioroini - previous
Apostolic Prefect to Africa)
said" "Publish this work as it is. There is
no need to give an opinion of its origin, whether it
be extraordinary or not: whoever reads it will understand...We
hear of so many visions and
revelations. I am not saying that all of them would
be true, but there can be some of them that are authentic."
Fr. Pavich scoffs at this directive from the Pontiff.
Yet, on October 31, 1987, Edouard Cardinal Gagnon referred
to Pius XII's action as a "type of official imprimatur
granted before witnesses." Thus, remarks to the
contrary notwithstanding, it is clearly canonical.
The next argument tries to accuse the publishers of
being disobedient. After all, shouldn't they have obeyed
the Holy Office and not published the book?
No, they might have been "disobedient" to
some Holy Office commisioners, but to obey the commisioners
would have meant disobedience to the Pope. These commisioners
turned their backs on basic principles of book censorship
by condemning it a priori or subjectively. In reality,
Church officials are to examine a manuscript objectively
to see if it contains any dogmatic or moral
errors - nothing else. If such errors are found, the
author normally is provided with a list in order to
correct them. If no such errors are found, then no condemnation
is to be issued. By ordering the publishers *in secret*
to turn over all the books without giving one single
reason for the condemnation, violated this principle.
In addition, the publishers were aware of Pius XII order
to "publish the work as it is" and had a duty
to obey the highest authority. Note that it is canonically
true that the Pope's Supreme Rights mean that there
can be no rejection of his judgements or decrees, nor
appeals against them. Pretending that the verbal directive
somehow didn't exist because it wasn't written does
not make it right or lessen the duty the publishers
had felt to obey the Supreme Pontiff.
Now, you might perhaps ask, don't we still have a moral
obligation not to read the Poem since it is on the Index?
If the book was placed on the Index for heresy or for
erroneous teachings against
the Church, then this would be true since it wouldn't
do our souls any good in reading such nonsense. However,
the Poem was not placed on the list for this reason
at all. It was placed on for
technical reasons which are no longer relevant such
as the lack of an Imprimatur (the Church no longer requires
an Imprimatur on such material). Therefore, given that
the Index has been abrogated, and given that there is
no heresy or erroneous teachings being taught against
the Church, there is no basis to keep claiming that
the Magisterium doesn't want us to read the book. As
Fr. (Is he a biship now?) Roman Danylak wrote:
"The decree that abrogated the Index of forbidden
books, distinguishes between those books that were placed
on the Index because of their objectionable moral, theological
and anti-ecclesial character, and other literature,
as writings on private revelations or purported visions,
that were published without prior approval of ecclesiastical
authorities. The intense wish of Maria Valtorta, who
disclaimed any personal authorship of "The Poem
of the Man-God", other than that she was called
to be an amanuensis or recording secretary, claiming
that the writings were a gift from the Lord, was that
the Church should approve this work. One of her greatest
crosses, was that this approval was never obtained,
even though the final edition of the entire corpus of
"The Poem" was published in compliance with
the new rules established by the Holy See. Nor was she
herself responsible for the first, nor for that matter
the subsequent publications."
Finally, in April of 1983, Cardinal Ratzinger explicitly
gave his approval to read the book thus shutting down
this whole line of reasoning.
Of course, I can't change your mind for you but thought
I'd give you another side.
THE ARGUMENTS OF FR. PHILLIP PAVICH
The following material was assembled by Fr. Philip
Pavich OFM, St. James Church at Medjugorje, Yugoslavia.
Oct 4, 1991. In a appeal to all Medjugorje Centers on
Feb 2, 1992, he asked that it be circulated.
Condemnation of the works of Marie Valtorta by Pope
John XXIII:
In a letter [Prot. N. 144/58] to Cardinal Giusepe Siri,
Archbiship of Genoa, dated 31 January, 1985, His Eminence
Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Sacred Congregation
for the Doctrine of the Faith, revealed the following
facts in reply to the request from F. Umberto Losacco,
O.F.M. Cap. from Genoa for "a clarification about
the writings of Marie Valtorta and whether there existed
an
evaluation of the Magisterium of the Church about the
publication in question with the corresponding bibliographical
references". With the letter to Cardinal Siri,
he sent photo-copies which revealed the following facts:
1. In a Decree of the Supreme Sacred Congregation of
the Holy Office, Wed Dec 16, 1959, the anonymous 4 volume
work "THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD" was ordered
to be added to the Index of Forbidden Books. His Holiness
POPE JOHN XXIII, Fri Dec 18, 1959 approved and commanded
the condemnation to be published. The decree was then
promulgated by the Holy Office Jan 5, 1960.
2. The official Vatican newspaper "Osservatore
Romano" on the following day Wed Jan 6, 1960 published
an article entitled "A Life of Jesus Badly Fictionalized"
[Una Vita di Gesu Malamente Romanzata] summarizing the
investigations of the Cardinals of the Holy Office who
are responsible for protecting the faithful in matters
of faith and morals.
3. When the Italian publishers, in blatant disobedience
to this solemn decree, issued at the highest possible
level of the Roman Catholic Church planned a new 10
volume edition revealing the name of Maria Valtorta,
the "Osservatore Romano" on Dec 1, 1961 published
a warning to the faithful that this planned work "has
no scientific value, repeats the same material contained
in the 4
volumes already condemned by the Holdy Office Dec 16,
1959 [A.A.S.vol.LII {1960, p.60}] and therefore must
retain the same condemnation according to Can. 1399
of the Code of Canon Law."
4. Cardinal Ratzinger also sent a copy of an article
in reference to the publication of the planned 10 volume
second edition which further explained the extremely
serious objections to the works. Although there is no
source cited for this article, he considered it important
enough to be sent to Cardinal Siri. The last paragraph
of the article states that the second edition is "a
vain and useless expectation: the "phenomenon"
has already been examined scientifically and placed
in a well known category of mental sicknesses, and the
facts added to the second edition do not change the
nature of the work which evidences being a mountain
of childishness, of phantasies and of
historical and exegetical falsehoods, diluted in a subtly
sensual atmosphere, through the presence of a flock
of women in the company of Jesus. On the whole it is
a heap of pseudo-religiosity. Therefore, also for the
second edition the judgment of the Church to condemn
it retains its validity."
5. In a "Notification" of June 14, 1966 the
Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith abrogated
the Index of Forbidden Books. Cardinal Ratzinger wrote
in his letter of Jan 31, 1985, "After some people
claimed that the printing and distribution of the works
in question would now be permitted, the "Osservatore
Romano" published that "the Index of Forbidden
Books keeps `all of its moral authority' and therefore
the distribution and recommendation of the work [Poem
of the Man-God] is considered improper when its condemnation
was not make lightly but with the most serious motivation
of neutralizing the harm which such publication could
inflict on the more unwary faithful."
This "Notification" was later published in
a Decree of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith on Nov 15, 1966. In response to the question
whether canon 1399 forbidding Catholics to read books
on the "Index", as well as canon 2318 which
stated the penalties against violators of the laws of
censure and prohibition of books, still retained their
force, the Decree answered negatively as to the force
of church law, but positively regarding the retention
of their validity as to the moral law which totally
forbids the dilution of faith and morals. [Acts of the
Apostolic See, 1966].
In conclusion, this means that Pisani Publishers, the
same Italian publisher which has monopolized all language
publications of the POEM OF THE MAN-GOD since the late
1950's, has been deliberately deceiving the Catholic
faithful in knowingly disobeying the laws of the church
even before those laws were changed, and has brazenly
been distributing these condemned works to a devout
but unsuspecting Catholic Faithful despite the efforts
of the highest authorities of the Catholic Church to
warn the faithful that those same laws still retain
their moral authority and that the works of Maria Valtorta
should be avoided by sincere and conscientious Catholics.
Moreover, they have knowingly deceived Catholics by
printing a `bogus' Supreme Pontificial Imprimatur of
absolutely no value, but which the unknowing reader
considers authentic. To add insult to injury, they slander
Pope John XXIII and the former Holy Office as a "modernist
clan", which "managed to put the first 1956-1959
edition on the Index", and legalistically claim
that the condemnation juridically affects only the first
edition, though the Vatican clearly pronounced that
it applies to the second. Then they put forth a silly
claim this `Master Edition' was approved by the `commissioner'
of the Holy Office in 1962, as if his authority could
surpass the previous highest possible level condemnations.
They add offense to Cardinal Ratzinger by claiming that
"This
great work is now read around the world in many languages,
Modernists still fighting it"!!
On April 10, 1991 the Yugoslav Bishops Conference stated,
"the faithful.. .require attention and pastoral
care...so that in Medjugorje...a healthy devotion to
the Blessed Virgin Mary would be promoted in agreement
with the teachings of the Church." Every sincere
devotee of Our Blessed Mother will want nothing less.
Here is an excellent opportunity to put into practice
a true Catholic spirit of obedience and total submission
as She would have us do.
What's wrong with "Poem of the Man-God"?
Maria Valtorta: Her grave mental illness and condemned
writings
by Philip Pavich O.F.M.
Praised by Jesus and Many! Please let me share with
you why it is so important to listen to the wisdom of
the Vatican's condemnation. After living in the Holy
Land for 11 years, I was personally never interested
in reading the "Poem." I was simply indifferent
to it. Then through confession of many pilgrims in Medugorje,
I started receiving a whole collection of various "new-age"
and trance channeled books of all types including `gospels'
and `lives' of Jesus. One was the 4 lb., 2000 page URANTIA
BOOK with a beautiful 700 page life of Jesus channeled
by a group of spirits called the "Midwayer Commission."
I thought, "this would be "fun" to read,
much better than 4400 pages of Marie Valtorta!"
The thought then struck me that I should "check
out" Valtorta. Being an old seminary teacher, I
went to the introduction (gray pages) of Vol. 1. It
was devastating! It described her as a "mystical
writer" (p.IX) with all the symptoms of channeling,
with `dictation' and `visions' which were out of her
control. "I can affirm", one of Valtorta's
declarations reads, "that I have no human source
to be able to know what I write, and what, even while
writing, I often do not understand." (p. X) That
meant one of two possibilities: it was either supernatural
by God's Spirit or partly preternatural by a deceiving
evil spirit. As I read on, it became more clear that
is was the second. She knew that the chruch, Jesus'
Mystical Body on earth, was not going to approve what
"Jesus" Himself had written! "Why would
the `dictating' Jesus be at odds with His Mystical Church
Body on earth?" I asked myself.
The answers were clear. Emilio Pisani, the publisher,
who wrote this introduction tried to cover up her serious
psycholtic condition by piously claiming that God must
have accepted the offering of her intellect as a sacrifice
of reparation for the Church's "blocking"
of the work. In other words, she went insane! She was
driven by a compulsive mania to write on any available
piece of paper, "Jesus I confide in You" which
at times whe computed in terms of indulgences obtained.
That hardly seemed the peaceful soul one would expect
to find after writing 15,000 pages of intimate visions
from Jesus! She developed echolalia, a schizophrenic
reaction in which "...She progressively spoke less,
to the point of limiting herself to the mechanical repetition
of a greeting, or of the final words of a phrase addressed
to her, frustrating all attempts at dialogue."
The accusing words that follow then made it clear to
me indeed that she was hosting a destructive decieving
spirit. "She never asked for anything, and she
allowed herself to be fed like a child.
When interrogated because of some serious circumstance
regarding her writings, [of which there are many and
I will quote a few later] she responded briefly and
exactly, as if temporarily shaken out of her state of
incommunicability."
To me this meant that the same spirit which had channeled
all the 15,000 pages now broke through in what looked
like a "lucid moment" but was really just
the same evil spirit speaking through her mouth. I was
then convinced that I would find very serious objections,
indeed, if I began to look into the writings themselves.
Before doing that, I was even more certain of what I
would find by what I read on p.XII, the true title of
this work.
We were never led to use the true title of which `Jesus
revealed'! "THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
AT IT WAS REVEALED TO LITTLE JOHN." No Catholic
would ever have even looked at the books had they realized
the truth! Why was the title so deceptively "fixed"
to read THE POEM OF JESUS and the THE POEM OF THE MAN-GOD?
But even that proved to be the correct erroneous title
for this condemned work. Never in 2000 years have we
called Jesus the MAN-GOD? He is always for us the GOD-MAN,
the second Person WORD OF GOD that became MAN. This
mistake is far more revealing and serious than appears
at first sight. It is standard to all eartern religions,
and "new-age" doctrine, that each man can
gain the Christ consciousness. This `Jesus' then was
just another MAN who became GOD, like you and I can
do! Of course this is very false!
The final proof was the bogus claim, "Nevertheless,
it is a "gospel" which neither subsitutes
nor changes the Gospel..." That is completely false
because we have only four inspired canonical gospels.
And I found numerous places where it changed. distorted,
and lied about the Gospel. Then I started my search
for falsehood in the text itself and found abundant
proof of the error
I had expected. I shall only cite a few.
1. Vol.1, p.40 #7. "The Word puts His wisdom on
His mother's lips". The wisdom which the Word puts
on his 3 year old mother's lips is ludicrous in its
blasphemy. "...I must be a virgin? I must...I want
Him to love Me, His maiden, because of the virginity
which will make Me somewhat like His beloved Mother...'
Please note that virginity in Mary means sinlessness
and would not just make her `somewhat' like his mother.
Then comes the `wisdom':[compare Judas Vol.5, p. 641].
"I would also like to be a sinner, a big sinner,
if I were not afraid of offending the Lord...Tell Me,
mummy, can one be a sinner out of love of God?"
At St. Ann's shock she goes on, "...I mean to commit
a sin in order to be loved by God, Who becomes the Saviour.
Who is lost, is saved.[like Judas?] Isn't that so? I
would like to be saved by the Saviour to receive His
loving look. That is why I would like to sin, but not
to commit a sin that would disgust Him. How can He save
Me if I do not get lost?" (p.40). This `wisdom'
is the heresy of apokatastasis and will later by applied
to
Judas. Suffice it to say for now that any sincere Catholic
is revolted and disgusted by such blasphemy in the mouth
of Our Immacualte Conception even at age 3. Moreover,
she had already received the most `loving look' possible
from all eternity when the Father chose her on the very
pages of Genesis 3:15. What a mocking lie that she could
improve on that look and "win" God's loving
look through wanting to be a big sinner! Yet, `Jesus'
defends this `wisdom' as being from Him on p.41 and
42! So this `Jesus' is exactly what I had expected,
a false and deceiving spirit like all the other false
Jesus's in the new-age books.
2. Vol.1, #52. Jesus at the Wedding at Cana. In the
real Gospel of John we read, "Women, how does this
concern of yours involve me? My hour has not yet come."
John 2:4 [literally in the Greek, `What to me and to
you, women? not yet is come the hour of me'. Now remember
the lying boast on p. XII, `neither substitutes nor
changes the Gospel'. It is exactly what happens before
your
eyes. "Women, what is there still between Me and
You?" The words "My hour has not yet come"
are totally deleted! On p. 283: "Jesus explains
the meaning of the sentence to me. That word `still',
which is omitted by many translators, is the key-word
of the sentence and explains its true meaning."
This is all lies.
We now hear this mendacious `Jesus' say that the true
Gospel is wrong and this fiction gospel is right! He
invents the word `still' not in the Greek NT, and then
proceeds to give a total phantasy exegesis on the falsehood:
"That "still", forgotten by most, meant
this..." Another lie! It ws never
forgotten, it simply never existed! "That is the
sense of that short but so full of meaning "still"
(p.284). Where is the explanantion of the omitted NT
words, "My hour has not yet come?"
3. Vol.5 #565...Judas of Kerioth is caught stealing.
This bad fiction pasage reveals a terrifying and raging
Jesus `the judge' before `Judas the demon' on p.222
who barely holds back thrice cursing Judas ..."with
an efort of self-control that makes His whole body temble"
p.223, who judges Judas," in a
low but dreadful voice...Thief! hief! Thief! ...Like
Barabbas. Worse than him." breathing "that
word on his face as they are now very close to each
other." Remember Jesus said, "If any one hears
my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him;
for I do not come to judge the world but to save the
world." John 12:47. It's tatally false to describe
Jesus as the judge during his time on earth. Our Creed
says "he will come to judge the living and the
dead". Only at the end of the world will He judge!
and irreversably!
More fiction and falsehood is on p.224 where Judas accuses
Jesus: "It is I, only I, who must not accept the
offerings of pilgrims. Because you do not want me to
touch money." But the real Gospel of John 13:29
says: "A few had the idea that, since Judas held
the common purse, Jesus was telling him to buy what
was needed for the feast, or to give something to the
poor." Also, John 12:6: "..he was a thief.
He held the purse, and used to help himself to what
was depositied there." Judas could have never accused
Jesus of not letting him touch money!
Marie Valtorta has Satan entering the heart of Judas
during this fictitious scene, p. 225. But on p. 507
at the Last Supper where John 13:27 says, "Satan
entered his heart". Marie Valtorta is completely
silent on Satan and even skips the whole passage in
her commentary! Jesus is also blamed for tricking Judas
into betraying Him on p. 506. "Take it, Judas.
You like this." "Thank
you, Master. I do like it" and unaware...he bites
the accusing bread... Jesus: "Well, Now that I
have made you happy, go!" Judas: "I will obey
you at once, Master. Then I will join you at Gethsemane.
You are going there, are You not? As usual?" Jesus:
"Let him go. He and I know what must be done."
Yet Judas doesn't realize that Jesus has given him the
curse in the morsel of
bread. Now instead of describing John 13:27: "Immediately
after, Satan entered his heart," it is completely
omitted from description in the very place where it
belongs! Hardly E. Pisani's boast on p. XII!
4. Vol. 5, #606 ...The Spiritual Distress of Mary. The
whole passage from p. 630 is insulting to Mary. On p.
631 she utters "O cruel hyenas joined to Satan,
...why have you not crucified Me with Him? Were you
afraid of committing a second crime? ...And what was
it for you killing a poor women, since you did not hesitate
to kill God incarnate? Have you not committed a second
crime? And is letting a mother outlive her murdered
son not `the most nefarious crime?" This angry
feminist Mary says letting her live was a worse crime
than killing God incarnate!!
On p. 636 Mary is begging dead Jesus to protect her
faith from Sata who "is crushing it in his coils
to strangle it...and now with with his hooked poisonous
teeth he is piercing the flesh of My heart paralysing
its throbs, its strength and warmth. God! God! God!
Do not allow Me to be distrustful! Do not allow doubt
to freeze Me! Do not let Sata be free to lead Me to
despair! Son! Son! Put your hand on My heart. It will
drive Satan away." This is simply not our Mother
of Faith! It is a blashpemous denigration of our Virgin
most faithful, Queen of Martyrs!
5. Vol. 5, #607 The Return to the Supper Room. In this
chapter so insulting to Mary and Jesus, it is very obvious
that the raving hysterical Mary on p. 640 simply can
not in any way be the Mother of all Mankind!!
"They are all killers, all of them!.. Go away!
Go away!..I do not want to see anybody any more.. In
every man there is a wolf and a snake. `Man disgusts
and frightens Me...'
That `cannot' be the Mother of the `whole' human - male
and female - race speaking! Rather a man-hating woman
who goes on to demonstrate that she is in fact a type
of `eco-feminist' as she would be called in today's
new-age jargon. Then like the `witches' and `starhawks'
of today's creation spirituality she prefers the stars
to noisy human beings as her companions `because they
come
from God! - implying that disgusting, frightening men
do not come from God!
"Leave me here under these quiet trees, on this
flowery grass... before long the stars will begin to
shine...they have always been his friends and mine..
yesterday evening they kept us company in our lonely
agony.. they know so many things...they come from God...oh!
God! God!
The stars are personified and humanized as companions,
friends who come from God, while disgusting man is de-humanized
and rejected by the Mother of mankind! A vicous blasphemy
of Mary and all mankind!
But that's not all. "The "Seat of Wisdom"
is then presented as having lost her way and has to
be conviced by the wise persuasion of the more wise
Magdalene "who finds a reason capable of bending
the Sorrowful Mother to obedience" (Vol. 5, p.641)
and is reminded that she herself said:
"It will be easier for Him to rise, if He is free
from these useless bandages [as if mere rags could restrain
Him!] I (Magdalene) say to you: "If we succeed
in being united in the faith in His Resurrection, He
will rise earlier. [Than what? more pelagianism] We
will evoke Him with our love...Mother, Mother of my
Savior, come back with us, since you are the love of
God, to give us this love of Yours! Do you want poor
Mary of Magdala to get lost again, after He saved her
with so much pity?"
The words "since you are the love of god"
are fully erroneous. This is again the new-age divinization
of Our Blessed Mother. But she gets a hold of herself
and, convinced by Magdalene's false logic, `bends' "No,
I would be reproached for that. You are right...".
The Seat of Wisdom is bent with her reasoning! More
insults to our Blessed Virgin Mary! But much worse is
now to come!
Again Vol. 5, p.641.
"I must go back.. and look for the apostles...the
disciples...the relatives...everybody...And say...say:
have faith. Say: He forgives you... Whom have I already
told so? Ah! The [Judas] Iscariot..I will have to...yes,
I will have to look also for him... because he is the
biggest sinner..." Mary remains with Her head bent
on Her breast, trembling as if She wer disgusted, and
then She says: "John, you will look for him. And
you will bring him to Me. You `must' do that. And I
`must' do that. Father `let also this be done for the
redemption of Mankind...'".
This is the heresy "apokatastasis" - the final
restitution of all, including Satan. Condemned in 553
but very current in modern new-age thinking, it means:
Everybody gets saved! Similar to "universalism"
in modern Protestantism, no one is excluded from heaven!
And, of course, THERE IS NO HELL! It's also bad Christology.
The Divine Mary will by her forgiveness perfect that
which Jesus failed to do - namely redeem ALL mankind.
The logic is clear. If Judas, the biggest sinner remains
unforgiven, then mankind, of which he is a part, is
not redeemed. By forgiving the biggest of all sinners,
then no smaller sinner will thereby be excluded and
ALL MANKIND WILL BE REDEEMED BY MARY! Was this the new
Mariology that the Servites Fr. Berti and Fr. Roschini
were so zealously trying to establish? Malignant stuff
indeed! I was convinced!
These few passages show the falsehoods and blasphemous
heresies from Vol.1. to Vol. 5! Private claims and expert
theologians notwithstanding, from alpha to omega this
is indeed evil channeled "doctrin of demons"
as St. Paul call it 1 Tim 4:1. "The Spirit distinctly
says that in later times some will turn away from the
faith and will heed deceitful spirits and things taught
by demons
through plausible liars..." I told Fr. Tomislav
Pervan that from my search, the "Poem" had
to be false. A pleasant surprise! He agreed with me
and informed me it had been condemned by Pope John XXIII
in 1959 and that Cardinal Ratzinger had repeated the
validity of the condemnation as late as October 1985.
He also provided me with copies of the Vatican papers
of condemnation.
I puzzled over what to do about this discovery and over
all the people being deceived. When Fr. Al Winshman
finally pleaded for copies of the condemnation papers
on October 3, 1991, I thought it was time to summarize
them on a "fact sheet" and send them to all
the Medjugorje centers, so that it would not trickle
out through Fr. Winshman, who had been thoroughly convinced
by what he
say anad talked to his group that night for several
hours, saying he would have to cancel the orders he
had taken from them. I thought people were going to
be angry and well, let them be angry at me, and not
at Fr. Winshman, who was already upset enough by having
to face this unpleasant truth. He expressed his relief
that he would not be investing a considerable sum of
money in promoting meditation videos on these false
Valtorta revelations.
Then Oct 17th, I wrote Fr. Mitch Pacwa SJ and sent him
all the Vatican condemnation papers to forwarn him before
the Chicago Medjugorje Conference in case they would
perhaps choose not to sell the books in the Conference
bookstore. I am very grateful that Fr. Pacwa then went
to work on his article, researching more of the history,
and the plainly deceptive advertising omissions of CEDIVAL
and Prof. Brodeur!
Since Cardinal Ratzinger explained that the Index of
Forbidden Books "retains all its moral force",
though abolished in 1966, it is very clear then that
we do not have the moral option to read books which
the solemn teaching authority of the Church has cleary
said are dangerous to our faith and morals. It is true
there is no longer a law against reading private revelations,
but always `with the assumption that they are not against
faith and morals.' Now that we know the Church has spoken
about this work, we can say we have the right to read
it!
Cardinal Ratzinger made a similar type of clarification
regarding membership in a Masonic lodge even though
the Masons are no longer mentioned explicitly in Canon
1374 of the new 1983 Code of Canon Law. (dfr. The Declaration
"Quaesitum est" On Masonic Societies, The
Sacred Congregation for the Docrtin of the Faith: 26
Nov 1983: A.A.S. 76 (1984) p. 300. In that declaration
he states that the negative position of the Church on
membership in Masonic societies remains
unchanged, and that "the faithful who belong to
Masonic societies sin grievously and cannot take Holy
Communion." He also added that local church authorities
do not have the power to make a decision about the nature
of Masonic memberships that would not be in harmony
with this declaration. Similarly the clarification given
on the Index keeping its full moral force although it
was legally abrogated (A.A.S. Nov 15, 1966) excludes
the moral option to read a solemnly condemned work!
Just as we would not rationalize or justify our way
into joining the Masons, so too, we should not disobendiently
claim the right to read the solemnly condemned GOSPEL
OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ACCORDING TO LITTLE JOHN!.
We all said we would obey the judgment of the Church.
Now that there is a perfect chance to do just that,
why be content with empty "lip service"? This
applies to all of us. "Who hears you, hears Me.
Who rejects you, rejects Me" Jesus said of his
apostles. Neither theologians nor private opinions can
override the teaching authority of the Church but are
themselves judged by the Church's magisterium! It's
time to obey the wisdom of Pope John XXIII. To quote
St. Augstine, "Roma locuta, causa finita!"
"Rome has spoken, the case is ended!"
What better opportunity for her children to put into
practice the very spirit of their Blessed Mother, "Do
whatever He (His Church) tells you!" "Behold
the "slave" of the Lord, let it be done to
me according to `Your' Word!" Anything else is
simply unworthy and shameful behavior for a child of
her who was blessed because she believed that everything
said to her would be fulfilled. Would our Blessed Mother
not be deeply saddened when so many or her children
are being deceived by writings that actually denigrate
and blaspheme Jesus and His own Virgin and sinless Mother?
Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, we trust in you.
Fr. Philip Pavich OFM St. James Church, 88266 Medjugorje.
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