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Unity Publishing - More Dangerous Than Any False Apparition

Rick Salbato's writing is in black font, mine is in red font.

OBEDIENCE

The next test, always the most important, is obedience. Satan knows doctrine well, and he can fool many with his lies; but he cannot be obedient. His pride will not allow him even the pretense of obedience to a mere human.

Well, this is not right from the very start. Satan IS obedient to God, Jesus, Mary, Michael and Raphael and CAN be renounced by any human in the name of Jesus.

Our Lady has been questioned through the visionaries by those who wish to respond to the messages without being disobedient to the Church. She answers:

"One must follow the authority of the Church with certainty. Yet, before she expresses an opinion, it is necessary to advance spiritually, because she will not be able to express a judgment in a vacuum, but in a confirmation which presupposes growth of the child. First comes birth, followed by Baptism, then Confirmation. The Church comes to confirm him, who is born of God. We must walk and advance in the spiritual life, affected by these messages." (1986)

Secondly, Rick is taking individual criteria of tests out of context, giving them the appearance of full tests in themselves. He did this on the previous page with FIDELITY. There is not a single test of "Obedience". Obedience and fidelity come under the umbrella of "Personal Qualities of the Visionaries", which include: mental soundness, honesty, sincerity, uprightness of conduct, obedience to ecclesiastical authorities, ability to return to the normal practices of the faith (such as participation in communal worship, reception of the sacraments). Possibly the only one I could fault there is that it does appear that the visionaries may actually have deceived the Bishop of Mostar. BUT, for people who haven't read the last three pages, once you read about the Bishops of Mostar, you might see how this was possible and even justifiable. The sub-test is "Obedience to Ecclesiastical Authorities". After the Vatican rejected Bishops Zanic's unfounded opposition to Medjugorje and distanced itself from the Bishop's stance, it is possibly understandable how the Vatican might turn a blind eye to this "disobedience". It has been said here that the Bishop's agenda during his period of permitted investigation was to focus on accumulating evidence that would discredit Medjugorje rather than taking an objective stance. That being the case, who can blame visionaries and Franciscans for being defensive.

Let us start with the words of Padre Pio:

“Where there is no OBEDIENCE, there is no virtue.
Where there is no virtue, there is no good. Where there is no good, there is no love. Where there is no love, there is no God. Where there is no God, there is no Paradise."

Nobody is saying obedience is not a valuable virtue. But, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT. Within the context of the Herzegovinian Affair, "obedience" was an abused word. It was a word used as a weapon and a word quickly discarded if it did not suit the purposes of those who sought to destroy. Please read on....

By Medjugorje standards, Padre Pio had many good reasons to be disobedient. He was told by a visiting priest to burn all the testimonials to his intercession. Without a second thought, he burned them all. When Vatican II introduced the new Mass, even though he had loved the Tridentine, he changed without hesitation. He even sent a letter to the Holy Father offering his support. When Rome told him to stop saying public Mass and hearing confession, he stopped without even asking why. For six years he offered Mass in his room. We would like you to compare Medjugorje to Padre Pio.

Let’s see how the actors of Medjugorje stack up to the obedience of the Padre. On December 19, 1981, only six months after the first apparition, the "Lady" said that the one most to blame for these disorders [the conflict between the Bishop and the two priests], was the Bishop [Zanic]. She told Father Vego to stay and not to go away as he was ordered. Remember that Fathers Vego and Prusina had been excluded from their Order as priests by their superiors.

Below is an extract from "The Truth About the Herzegovinian Affair"

The Herzegovinian bishops often stressed obedience as the supreme principle of conduct within the Church. In practise however, they themselves at times, did not adhere to this principle but rather when it suited them. When Bishop Zanic, for instance, came to Mostar as the Assistant Bishop he immediately embarked on convincing the Herzegovinian Franciscans to disobey their lawful Provincial, with the intention of better achieving his aims. He did not succeed in this. When he took over the diocese that is in 1988, a group of Franciscans did not accept transfers, which had been assigned them by the Provincial administration. Bishop Zanic backed them up in their refusal. He even forbid in writing that they be transferred! They who were disobedient were allowed to keep their jurisdiction and Canon mission yet he refused to issue these to those who were lawfully, pursuant to decision of the Provincial administration, to succeed them. This same practise was continued by the bishop's successor, Bishop Ratko Peric

The Herzegovinian bishops demanded that the Franciscans hand over parishes which belonged to them in accordance with the Decrees of 1967 and 1975, yet he continually refused to take over the parishes of Glavatievo and Nevesinje, which were assigned to him in the Decree of 1923, and which the Franciscans had been offering for quite a while. The bishops were not prepared to implement the Decree of 1975 in its literal sense. The Franciscans offered Bishop Zanic that upon carving up the monastic Franciscan parish in Humac he found new secular parishes in Zvirii-Bijaa and Crveni Grm as determined in the Decree of 1975. Nevertheless he refused this and demanded that the heart of this same parish - Ljubu?i and Radi?i and that he be allowed to found a new secular parish in these towns even though this is the one thing that was explicitly forbidden in the 1975 Decree! Bishop Peric at all costs demanded that he be given Mostar and apljina yet he refused to take over the parishes in Jablanica and Blagaj which had been virtually completely ethnically cleansed by the Muslims but which nevertheless were to belong to him in accordance to the same Decree of 1975!

These few examples clearly show that the Herzegovinian bishops are not exactly marked by uncompromising obedience to decisions adopted by the Holy See even though they demand this same obedience of the Franciscans.

Below are some extracts from Verite.cz:

...to his 4-member team he (Bishop Zanic) gave instructions to collect materials speaking against authenticity of the apparitions but not the instruction to examine objectively the visionaries and the course of the apparitions (Dr. Ivan Duganžic only a member of the commission).

Further, of his own accord he was further collecting intensively further untruths and assumptions and he succeeded in publishing them in L´Osservatore Romano and La Croix in November and especially in December 1984.

In this situation archbishop Franic, the chairman of the theological commission working for the Jugoslavian Bishop´s Conference lodged with Vatican a complaint against bishop Zanic on 29. 1. 1985. The Congregation of Cardinal Ratzinger had found out that the complaint is justified and in April 1985 withdrew the bishop Zanic´s powers to make further decisions on the events and asked him to pass over the documentation which was realized in Vatican on 15. 5. 1985.

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Two reasons are known which significantly influenced the opinions of bishop Zanic. The first reason concerns passing of the parishes with Franciscans over to diocesan priests. For the thing is that in past centuries during the oppression in Bosnia-Herzegovina it was only Friars-Franciscans who persevered with people. In compliance with the agreement from 1975 Franciscans are to pass some of the parishes over to the diocesan administration. But bishop Zanic wanted to speed up and to widen this handing over but he met with resistance especially among believers who are fond of Franciscans.

The second reason was a protracted dispute with two Franciscans from Mostar. These said that in a certain matter the bishop had not acted rightly and this man, on 7. 2. 1983, let them divest of their priestly activity. Both of them approached through Vicka the Virgin Mary and She said they did not commit offence. And in the end this, ten years later was also confirmed by the Apostolic See in Rome which on 27. 3. 1993 stated that Franciscans had not committed violation of the rules but bishop Zanic had been acting in contradiction with canonical law.

One of the main so-called "disobedient Franciscans" was Father Jozo Zovko. If the Vatican really thought his disobedience was so intolerable, we need to ask ourselves why Father Jozo was solidly supported and even admired by Pope John Paul II. To see the actual letter of gratitude and support John Paul II sent to Father Jozo and to read other comments by JPII and the vatican about Medjugorje, please read "The Vatican on Medjugorje". And more importantly, if this disobedience constituted enough, either of itself, or in union with any other objection and detraction brought forth by Rick Salbato, surely the Vatican would have made a negative pronouncement on Medjugorje right at the beginning of the apparitions.

On January 3, 1982, the "Virgin" said, "Ivaca Vego is not guilty. Let him stay all the same. The Bishop is not putting things in order and for that HE IS TO BLAME. HE WILL NOT ALWAYS BE THE BISHOP."

Again, the story is twisted. We see clearly what Mary is saying when we read the following, another statement of the same issue:

"The bishop is to blame for the disorder in Herzegovina," said the Gospa. "Vego is not to blame. If they expel him from the Franciscan order, may he remain courageous."

Mary is simply not referring to Vego's personal indiscretions. That is for God to judge. She says that Vego is not to blame for the disorder in Herzegovina, which is more important. Mary sees the bigger picture. Mary sees the damage the Bishop has been doing to peace within the diocese with his dirt-digging campaign to discredit Medjugorje and she is pleading with him to put things back in order.

Compare that statement of the Gospa to the statements of the Virgin Mary in all true apparitions. This is what descernment is. You see the dark by comparing it to the light. You see the difference between good and bad by placing them both in the light of truth. God does not want us just to accept by blind faith every spirit that comes our way. He wants us to seek the truth and you will find. But if you are not looking?

Again, Rick wants to teach us all how to discern. This might be credible if anything he was saying was intelligible or relevant. Does the Vatican need Rick's help in discernment? Well, of course not! That's why the Vatican tacitly endorses Medjugorje and why none of Rick's ideas and recommendations are heeded. How embarrassed (to use the strongest euphemism I can muster) is Rick going to be when the promised sign comes and Medjugorje is approved! Where will he hide! What will he tell the Lord when an account is demanded of him regarding the lies and innuendo he placed on his website causing thousands to flee from salvation! RICK, STOP NOW!

Rick should heed his own advice and follow the Vatican's example, close his mouth, put down his poison pen and just pray and wait patiently for the truth to reveal itself.

On January 11, 1982, Vicka notes in her diary,"The Virgin is against the Bishop."

Yes, this is quite obvious. And by virtue of this coming out of a diary meant for personal use, this means, in all likelihood, that Vicka really has heard from the Virgin that she is against the Bishop. The ball is thus in the Bishop's court.

On January 20, 1982, the seers ask about the priests being excluded from their order by Rome. The Virgin replied,"They are not guilty. In this decision the Bishop has acted hastily. Let them stay."

What this "Virgin" is saying is "let them disobey". This is approximately the time the priest was having an affair with the nun. But of course, maybe the Mother of God did not know that???

First of all, the Virgin is not saying "let them disobey". This is Rick Salbato's biased interpretation and he is extremely brave to twist the words of the Mother of God.

As I said earlier, it is my understanding that the two priests in question were adamant that, in a certain matter, the bishop had not acted rightly, when on 7 February 1983 he divested them of their priestly capacities. Both of them approached, through Vicka, the Virgin Mary, who agreed that they did not commit any offence. Ten years later, this was also confirmed by the Apostolic See in Rome which on 27 March 1993 stated that Franciscans had not committed any violation of the rules, but on the contrary that Bishop Zanic had been acting in contradiction to canonical law.

Between April 16 and 26, 1982, the "Virgin" spoke against the Bishop again and again. By this time all the Masses, confessions, etc., said by these priests were and still are SACRILEGIOUS.

If they are sacriligeous and if this is such a serious problem, why oh why does the Vatican not step in and do something official. The vatican continues to tacitly endorse Medjugorje and support all the Franciscans involved. See Vatican Response to Medjugorje. Do not be fooled by Rick Salbato's clever deception. He says the CHURCH has condemned Medjugorje. He doesn't say the VATICAN has condemned Medjugorje. How can he say the Church has condemned Medjugorje? Because he is equating the condemnation by the Church's representative in Herzegovina - the Bishop of Mostar - to a condemnation by the whole Church. But, what he keeps trying to hide is that the Bishop of Mostar has been censured as far as having authority to pronounce on the authenticity of the apparitions. This has been due to his totally unfounded opposition, which has appeared to spring from ulterior motives. The Vatican has since officially distanced itself from the pronouncements and opinions of the Bishop of Mostar, as shown in a letter from the Vatican, which brought much rejoicing for supporters of Medjugorje. Read that letter here.

On August 3, 1982, Bishop Zanic asks the seers to put in writing the description of the sign that had been promised by the Virgin and place it in a sealed envelope, so that if and when the sign took place, the prophesy could be checked with the facts. The seers REFUSED TO OBEY the Bishop. Ivan, however, the young boy seer, had put the information in an envelope and had kept it in his room.

On May 27, 1982, Vicka saw the Bishop at his request and gave him the diary [now 30 days long]. She gave him all but the days the Virgin spoke about the Bishop: Dec. 19, Jan. 3, Jan. 20, April 16 and April 26. The Bishop, who already knew about these notes, requested the missing diary. Vicka told him that there is no other diary and refused to give it over to them.

Well, I've gone over repetitively why they might want to withhold anything, including the truth, from the Bishops of Mostar. And none of it has anything to do with whether the visions are real. These are simply unfounded character assassinations.

On June 19, 1982, the Virgin stated:
"Tell the Father Bishop that I request his urgent conversion to the events of the Medjugorje parish before it is too late. Let him begin by informing himself about all the events with great understanding, love and responsibility. I desire that he place no disunion between priests and that he should not emphasize their negative sides. I ask for his conversion to these events. I am sending him the ULTIMATE WARNING. IF HE IS NOT CONVERTED HE WILL BE CORRECTED. MY JUDGEMENT, AS WELL AS THAT OF MY SON, JESUS, WILL STRIKE HIM. If he does not put into effect what I am giving him to know, please tell him that he has not found the path of my Son, Jesus."

Very interesting here: Note the Virgin's words concerning the Bishop's actions:

  1. She appears to be saying that up till now, the Bishop has not been looking into the apparitions with pure motives. This bears out the report from verite.cz, which stated that he purposely instructed his 4-member team to essentially "dig dirt" wherever it could be found.

  2. Consequently, he caused conflict and division within the diocese. If, during his dirt-digging campaign, he discovered illicit activities concerning priests, it should have been dealt with quietly and officially and with love and responsibility, not plastered all over the media and used as a motive for condemning Medjugorje. This is essentially what Mary has been getting at all along with her much-quoted statement: "The bishop is to blame for the disorder in Herzegovina," said the Gospa. "Vego is not to blame. If they expel him from the Franciscan order, may he remain courageous.".

Once again, I invite readers to examine the events of the Herzegovinian Affair. Below is an excerpt, detailing some of the activities of Bishop Zanic and his successor Ratko Peric, such activities as might cause Our Blessed Mother to pull them up by their collars:

The Mostar Affair

Nothing changed with the arrival of Bishop Zanic at the helm in September 1980, who immediately after his inauguration in the Franciscan monastic church in Mostar announced that he was going to establish a cathedral parish in Mostar and that he was going to carve up the Franciscan monastic parish so that four-fifths of the faithful would belong to the cathedral parish and one-fifth to the Franciscan monastic parish. His explanation for this decision was that the Franciscans had agreed. This immediately caused a negative reaction amongst the faithful in the church. When the parish priest of the Franciscan monastic parish cautioned the Bishop while still in the church, that his explanation that the Franciscan had agreed to this, was not the truth, the Bishop withdrew any jurisdiction and Cannon mission away from the parish priest with effect in the entire diocese.

The Franciscans at one time proposed that the Bishop take over the greater part of their parish under the condition that they be left the majority of their existing parishes. The diocesan side did not accept this proposal. Bishop Zanic nevertheless took over four-fifths of their parish with the explanation that they agreed to this but he never once mentioned the pre-condition they proposed, but rather continued to seek those parishes they demanded as a pre-condition to the agreement to be left to them permanently. He in fact considered these parishes as his own!

The people of Mostar and the Franciscans did not accept this division of the Franciscan parish in Mostar and Bishop Zanic did not succeed in implementing this division not even until the end of his mandate as bishop. This was the beginning of the Mostar Affair, which is continuing even now.

This unresolved state in Mostar awaited the new Bishop, Dr. Ratko Peric, who took over the diocese in 1993. During the trying and bloody battle for the survival of Croats in Mostar, he established four secular parishes within the intended cathedral parish. During the fiercest battles and destruction of the Franciscan monastery and when it was almost impossible to reach, several Franciscans took refuge in an outer suburb Cim, so that they could serve their people. Bishop Peric however, prohibited them from living there because it was located within the area of a secular parish. After being threatened with the harshest of sanctions via Rome and when in 1995 the situation had calmed down somewhat in Mostar, the Franciscans moved back to the demolished monastery and the people of Mostar reacted harshly against the Bishop and on occasion exuded violence against him. A great deal of Mostar was left without any regular pastoral care. This situation was reflected in the recent elections held in Mostar when in the most Croatian section of the Mostar suburbs of Ilii and Cim, as a sign of protest, the people only participated in the elections at a rate of less than 40%.

And so the Franciscans were pressed back to the very outskirts of Mostar. Yet, Bishop Peric did not stop there. He demanded the immediate retreat of the Franciscans out of apljina. He threatened with the harshest sanctions via Rome (in the same manner that the international community has been threatening Croatia with sanctions if it does not accept its conditions). Finally, the General of the Franciscan Order in April 1996, formally and legally handed the parish to the Bishop. The Franciscans were ordered to hand over their residency and church to the newly nominated secular parish priest on 12 May 1996, and to leave apljina. That day, the people blocked the path to the church and the Franciscan's residency and did not allow the newly nominated secular parish priest nor the bishop's Vicar-General from Mostar, nor the Franciscan's Delegate-General from Rome nor representatives of the Franciscan Province in Mostar to enter nor the apljina Franciscans to leave. After that Bishop Peric cancelled the Sacrament of Confirmation which was to have been held on 30 June 1996, in apljina. After serious pressure and threats of the harshest penalties from Rome on Sunday 14 July 1996, the Franciscans said their goodbyes to the faithful and on the Feast of St. Elijah on the 20th of the same month, they left apljina. They were greeted by several thousand faithful. Since then the church bells have been quiet, the church door is bricked in and the "wall will be taken down when they who built the church return, that is, the Friars", is written above the main entrance to the church and the faithful gather in the church yard when mass is scheduled and only pray the Rosary....

...He (Bishop Peric) ardently demanded that the Franciscans not only leave their residency and church but to completely leave the territory of apljina. With this he was not trying to implement the alleviated Decree with regard to apljina but what is more it was even harsher that the Decree itself: he was demanding of the Franciscans that which was not even directly noted in the Decree, which ordered the Franciscans to hand over their parish at the liberty of the Bishop, but it did not make mention that they as a monastic Order had to leave the territory of apljina!

We are supposed to believe that these are the sweet words of the most obedient creature on the face of the earth: a Woman, who obeyed Herod and went to Bethlehem for the census even though She was nine months pregnant; who went to the Temple for purification even though she needed no purification; who circumcised Her Son, even though He needed no circumcision; who stayed outside the Last Supper Room, even though she was greater than all the Apostles?

“My judgment” are not words the Mother of God could ever say. Mary is all mercy, never judgment. God is justice, but Mary is only love, prayer, and mercy. “MY judgment will strike him.” Moses made the mistake of saying that “he” could strike the rock and water would come out. Because of that statement he was not allowed to enter into the promised land. Now we are expected to believe that the most obedient Woman in history will steal the right of judgment from the Father, and take it upon herself. “I request --- I desire --- I ask --- I am --- I am” are not the words of Our Lady. No Jewish woman can use the words “I am”. Jews were not allowed to say the name of God out loud. Even John, the Baptist never used them. In the Greek “I am one crying in the wilderness” actually reads, “One crying in the wilderness” because the “I am” is implied and every Jew knew it because you could not say the words out loud.

Well, why is Rick so surprised. He is not understanding the authority of the Blessed Mother. Mary owes no deference to the Bishop. During Mary's time on Earth, certainly she was pure obdedience to God, coupled with being bound to earthly traditional expectations regarding the meekness and expected public behaviour of women. NOW, SHE IS THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. THE BISHOP IS HER SERVANT AND EVEN THE POPE IS HER SERVANT. With this correct vewpoint, we can see that her words are reasonable, patient, yet tinged with warning. Furthermore, if it were Satan, father of tricks, he could quite easily gain the Bishop's conversion with one or two personal appearances in the guise of the Virgin Mary. He would not waste time with words.

Poor Bishop Zanic! We’re sure he was shaking in his boots. But let us not take too lightly this threat. Although Satan will not be able to touch the Bishop, he has been intimidated, harassed and heckled by the supporters of the seers.

We must pray for Bishop Zanic and his successor. I have said pretty much all there is to say about him and I pray that I have not misjudged him in any way. But, there is a big stink coming from his direction.

Rome, in order to reward him for his courageous stand, increased the area of his jurisdiction. Thirty-four (34) of the thirty-five (35) bishops of Yugoslavia agreed with his condemnation. Only retired Charismatic Bishop Franic accepts the apparitions. And now after retirement his friend becomes the new Bishop.

Well, I think most of us are inclined to suspect that this was a face-saving gesture.

On December, 1983, Bishop Zanic published, through his episcopal curia, a warning against the irresponsible propaganda of the Franciscans, and he summarized by saying:

"It seems that the promoters of Medjugorje are busy creating a situation, by means of their propaganda, such that Church authority will never dare oppose. But the Church has no need of counter truths in order to defend the faith. THE TRUTH MUST BE PRESENTED EVEN THOUGH IT IS DISAGREEABLE. And concerning the 'Virgin's support of the rebellious priests...There has been no peace in the Church of Herzegovina [Medjugorje] for fifteen years. Half the Franciscans resist the restoration of certain parishes to the diocesan clergy using as their pretext the alleged messages of the Blessed Virgin at Medjugorje. The present provincial, his collaborators and the other half of the Franciscans are working to restore peace with the Bishop. They do not believe in the apparitions. Thus, ON ACCOUNT OF MEDJUGORJE AND THE 'QUEEN OF PEACE' THERE IS EVEN MORE TENSION AND DISQUIET! Regina pacis, ora pro nobis!"

On December 26, 1983, [after Bishop Zanic condemned a book written by Father Rupcic--"The Apparitions of The Blessed Virgin at Medjugorje"] the so-called "Virgin" prayed for the success of the book.

Cardinal Kuharic, Archbishop of Zagreb, stated on January 13, 1984, "If the Virgin said such words against the Bishop in favor of the suspended Franciscans, then IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN WHO SPOKE."

On February 26, 1984, Bishop Zanic wrote to a French priest:
"The propaganda on behalf of Medjugorje is terrible. They are preparing for WAR. It is a struggle of self-assertion by a group of Franciscans...The defenders of Medjugorje are DISOBEDIENT, ..."

Rick is not doing his case any favours by quoting comments from Mgrs Zanic or Peric or any of their backers and cohorts. If their comments were worth anything much, the Vatican would have listened. The tension and disquiet comes from one corner, begun by Bishop Zanic and perpetuated by people such as Rick Salbato.

"L'Osservatore Romano" [the voice of Rome] published an exact account of the Communique of Bishop Zanic on July 24, 1984, FORBIDDING ALL FURTHER PUBLICATIONS OF THE LITERATURE. In spite of this, eight books have been published and distributed throughout the world. Everyone who is involved in publishing or distributing these books is COMMITTING A MORTAL SIN AGAINST OBEDIENCE. Nevertheless, a week after Rome published the order, the "Virgin" commanded:"MAKE THE PRIESTS READ Abbe Laurentin's book and spread it."

August 7, 1984, Bishop Zanic, forbid the seers from using the Church building for the apparitions. The priests and seers refused to obey. On October 30, 1984, Bishop Zanic again commanded that the apparitions not take place in the parish buildings. Again the priests and seers refused to obey. On the same day, the Bishop published his report:

"IT IS NOT THE VIRGIN MARY WHO IS APPEARING AT MEDJUGORJE."

Bishop Zanic's protestations and prohibitions unfortunately didn't carry much weight, tried though he might. He just didn't get the backing of the Vatican. His right to officially pronounce on the authenticity of the visions was removed by the Vatican and handed to the Yugloslav Bishops' Council. The Bishops' Council wanted to approve the apparitions, but gave Bishop Zanic face and instead declared that they could not PROVE that the apparitions were taking place, amounting to a "WAIT AND SEE" policy, clearly evident in all subsequent Vatican statements. Unfortunately, there are people who do not want to follow the Vatican in this policy, who feel that they know better, or who have some other agenda, not in line with that of the Vatican. Otherwise, it is beyond rational people why anyone would want to condemn what really looks like the most genuine of enuine apparitions before any real evidence is made known to the wider public.

Rick continues on at some length about the issue of disobedience to the Bishop of Mostar. No-one is really taking this seriously because of the history the Bishop has with the Franciscans in the region. When the Vatican took away Bishops Zanic's right to judge the authenticity of the apparitions, this seems to have meant, for most people, that he and his successor had been moved to the back-benches. The Vatican continues to allow people to travel to Medjugorje accompanied by a priest, so long as Medjugorje is not being promoted as a genuine apparition ahead of the Church's final judgement.


To Be Painfully Continued...

 


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