Mirjana's Saturday Talk
September 12, 1998
Source: http://www.medjugorje.org/mirjana2.htm
In the beginning I would like to greet you all very warmly,
and I would like to thank you for a beautiful welcome. We
are all here to thank our heavenly Mother and to thank her
for everything she is doing for us, to greet her and thank
her for everything she does for us.
I will attempt to convey to you everything she wishes to
say because her desire is that we do only those things that
will bring us to her Son.
I will begin from the very beginning. The apparitions in
Medjugorje began June 24, 1981. We were children at that time.
And Medjugorje is a small village and in this village God
was always in the first place in peoples' lives and [in] every
home people prayed together in the evenings. And so we children
grew up in the faith, but we never had the opportunity to
hear about previous apparitions of Our Lady like at Lourdes
or Fatima because we were raised in a different system than
you were raised in; we were raised in communism. For us it
was possible only to pray in our homes and only once a week
to go to church. But about Lourdes and Fatima or apparitions
of Our Lady, we couldn't speak about these things because
of the fear.
And that day, June 24, 1981, I went out for a walk with Ivanka.
It was the Feast of St. John the Baptist, and so that day
no one was working. The two of us went for a walk below the
hill that is now called the Hill of Apparitions, and we talked
about ordinary things, the kinds of things young girls talk
about. And in one moment Ivanka said to me, "I think
Our Lady is on the hill." She said that very matter-of-factly.
I said, "Well, she has nothing better to do than come
to the two of us." Because I thought that was [an] impossible
thing. And I returned home and left Ivanka there. And when
I came to the first houses of the village, I felt a need to
return to the place. I needed to see what she was doing. And
when I returned, I saw Ivanka in the same place. And she said
to me, "Look, please, I am begging you." And I looked
and I saw a woman with a long grey dress and she was holding
a child in her arms. It was very strange because on that hill
nobody ever went up there, especially with a child in their
arms. The two of us just stared because all of our emotions
were all confused within us.
And in that moment, Ivan, one of the other visionaries, came
also because that was the way he would normally walk to get
to his home. I remember it like it was today. He was carrying
apples in his arms and when he saw what the two of us were
looking at, like every brave man, he dropped everything and
ran. And then I said to Ivanka, "Who knows what this
is; maybe it is better we leave also."
We returned home right away, and we told everyone that we
have seen Our Lady but nobody believed us. My grandmother
said, "Take a rosary and pray and leave Our Lady alone."
I had the desire within me to be alone to pray. And so that
entire night we spent in prayer, so that God could help us
understand what was happening to us.
And the next day Jakov and Marija were the only ones who
said, "How lucky you are, we wish we could have seen
Our Lady also." And the next day we all found ourselves
at the Hill of Apparitions without having called one another
there. And with us came our parents or our uncles. I could
say to you that it was probably the entire village gathered
there because everyone wanted to see what was happening to
the children. And we saw Our Lady in the same place, but this
time she didn't have a child in her arms. And that second
day, June 25, 1981, is the first time we went to Our Lady,
and that day many people from the village saw many signs from
Our Lady, so they believed us because without them we could
not have endured some of the stuff we endured later. I think
that might have been Our Lady's plan, to help them understand
that it was true. And in the former Yugoslavia it was not
easy to be a believer but especially not easy to be a visionary.
After a few days, the army immediately encircled the hill,
and they said if anyone would go up on the hill, they would
go to jail immediately. And so, we had to have the apparitions
in secret places, and many of the people in our village helped
with this. And so, I think it was Our Lady who truly helped
them to understand and believe we were speaking the truth
because we needed their help. My parents at that time were
in Sarajevo. My aunt felt a responsibility, and she called
my parents. My aunt said, "Something is happening to
her." And my mother got very scared and she said, "Well,
what is it?" And my aunt said, "Well, she is saying
she is seeing Our Lady." And my mother asked, "Is
she normal?" And my aunt said, "Well, she looks
the same as she looked before." And then my mom said,
"Well, then she is speaking the truth."
The daily apparitions lasted for me through Christmas Day
1982 and on Christmas Day 1982, I received the tenth and last
secret. And Our Lady told me then that I would no longer have
daily apparitions with her. She told me that I would have
an apparition of her on the 18th of March every year of my
life. And she also told me that I would also have some extraordinary
apparitions also. And that is what happened to Ivanka also
when she received the tenth secret; her daily apparitions
ended. And now she has apparitions once a year on the Anniversary
of Medjugorje for the rest of her life.
And now I need to tell you something that happened last night.
I was with Jakov last night during the apparition. When the
apparition ended, he asked me to go and talk with him alone.
He said, "I need you." Because he knows I have passed
through this, and he said, "Our Lady tomorrow will tell
me the tenth secret." And she told Jakov to prepare himself.
And so we prayed a lot last night that the Lord would help
him to understand that that is the way it must be. And when
he receives the tenth secret, then his daily apparitions will
cease.
I needed to choose a priest to whom I would tell the ten
secrets. And I chose Fr. Petar Ljubicic, and I need to tell
him what will happen and when it will happen. And he is to
announce it to everyone. He cannot choose whether he will
or will not tell the secret, he must tell the secret. Our
Lady always says, "Do not talk about the secrets, pray,"
because the one who experiences me as their mother and God
as their father, should have fear of nothing. Those who do
not believe are the only ones who have fear. I always say
to people, we don't need to be like Fr. Petar, this priest
to whom I will reveal the secrets. He always says to me, "Come
to confession to me and at least tell me one of them right
now."
I can tell you this, that Our Lady's heart will conquer.
I want to tell you that I have heard about lots of different
apparitions, some here in America, where reportedly Our Lady
is talking about some horrible times to come where there is
going to be floods and all kinds of disasters. And I always
say, with a full heart, that that's not truly Our Lady speaking
because Our Lady is our mother and she loves her children,
and it is not her desire that people love her because they
fear. That is not true faith. She changes us with her smile
and with love. And so we don't need to fear anything, but
we need to place our lives in her hands and we must not think
about what will happen tomorrow. Our Lady desires that we
think about what is going to happen now, in this moment, because
who amongst us here can say in ten minutes we will still be
alive. Our Lady desires that every second of our lives we're
prepared to return to God.
As I already said, Our Lady told me that I would also have
some extraordinary apparitions as well. And those apparitions
began on August 2, 1987, and they still continue today. And
I don't know how long these apparitions will last. In those
apparitions, we pray for nonbelievers, but Our Lady never
says "nonbelievers", she always says "those
who have not yet experienced the love of God." And she
asks for our help also, and when I say "our help",
I don't mean just the six of us visionaries. I mean the help
of all those people who experience Our Lady as their mother
because she says we are able to change nonbelievers, but only
with our prayers and only with our example. She asks in our
daily prayers that we place as a priority prayers for unbelievers
because she says most of the evil things that happen in the
world, like drugs, war, abortion, divorces, that these things
stem from unbelievers. So Our Lady says, "My dear children,
when you pray for them, you really pray for yourselves and
for your future."
And in addition to our prayers, she is also asking for our
example. She is not asking that we give lectures and talks;
I don't mean to imply that priests are not allowed to give
lectures and talks. Our Lady desires that we speak through
our lives, that unbelievers can see God and the love of God
in our lives. I would like to ask you most sincerely that
you understand this with your whole hearts. Because if only
once you saw the tears that Our Lady cries because of unbelievers,
I think you would pray immediately. And her only desire that
she told us in an apparition is that she present us all to
her Son as a bouquet of flowers. She will not be happy as
long as there is even one unbeliever. And so I always say
that we don't need to tell Our Lady about the things that
we desire because she is our mother and can read our hearts.
Let us pray so we can help her, so that we can change our
brothers and sisters who have not been as lucky as we have
to have encountered the love of God.
Each one of us six visionaries has a special mission in these
apparitions. Our Lady chose me to pray for unbelievers, Vicka
and Jakov pray for the sick, Ivanka prays for families, Marija
prays for sisters and souls in purgatory, Ivan prays for young
people and priests.
The most important message that Our Lady constantly repeats
is the Holy Mass, which shouldn't be something we just do
on Sundays. Our Lady once said that if you have to choose
between having visions of me and going to the Holy Mass, always
choose the Holy Mass because during the time of the Holy Mass
my Son is with you.
Because Our Lady has never said in these 17 years of apparitions,
she has never said, "Pray, and I will give you your answer."
She always says, "Pray, so that I can intercede to my
Son for you." Jesus is always in the first place.
Our Lady desires that we return the rosary into the family.
She said that nothing can unite a family like family prayer.
When parents pray with their children, children are never
too young to understand what their parents are doing. I want
to tell you an example that I typically tell to pilgrims.
This example touched me. When my older daughter was only 2
1/2 years old, I had never spoken to her to that point about
the apparitions because I thought, "What could she understand
at her age?" Then one day, she was playing with a friend
of hers and I went in to check on them, and I heard that this
friend of my daughter said to my daughter, "Well, my
mom drives a car," and my Marija said to her, "Well,
what is that? My mom talked to Our Lady every day." And
then I understood that she understood, even without me having
told her. Because Our Lady always places a great responsibility
on parents, we are the ones who need to place the roots of
faith in our children.
And Our Lady also asks that we fast on bread and water on
Wednesdays and Fridays. She didn't explain why. And I want
to tell you that when Our Lady gives a message, she gives
it to you as much as she gives it to me. And she never says
why and how come because for Our Lady we are all the same.
We visionaries are no more privileged than any of you, for
Our Lady we are all the same. She chose us so that through
us she can send the messages, but she has also chosen all
of you. Because to whom would we give these messages if she
hadn't called you also? Because we are all her apostles. So
when Our Lady asks that we fast on Wednesdays and Fridays
on bread and water, she says that to me and you, together
the same. Americans, whenever they come to Medjugorje, always
ask, "Well, can we at least take some coffee in the morning?"
And I always say, "Sure, why not, just do it before Our
Lady wakes up." Because each one of us is going to choose
what we can do and how we can respond. Our Lady doesn't ask
those that are sick to fast on bread and water, those who
are truly sick and not those who just have a headache or stomach
ache. I remember an old grandmother, an old woman who lived
near me. She fasted a lot, and I said to her, "Don't
do this because you are old and live alone. What if something
happens to you?" She gave me an answer that to this day
still remains in my mind. She said to me, very seriously,
"Mirjana, as long as you can go to the bathroom by yourself,
you can fast."
Our Lady asks that we go to confession, that we go to confession
monthly. Our Lady says there isn't a man on this earth that
doesn't need monthly confession. She didn't mention women;
Our Lady knows that women have enough crosses to bear!
Our Lady asks that we return the Bible into our families.
She didn't say how much we need to read. She said the important
thing is to return the Word of God into the family. If Jakov
were here right now when I said this thing about confession,
his reply would have been, "Yes, it is true that men
need to go to confession monthly, but women need to go every
day!"
Today, I want to conclude, asking you to pray for unbelievers.
Every one of the prayers that we pray for unbelievers wipes
the tears off the face of Our Lady. Our Lady asks, first of
all, that we love unbelievers, that we experience them as
our brothers and sisters, and that we do not judge them because
God will judge all of us. And when we can experience this
love for them, then we should pray for them because that is
the only way we can change them. I am sure each one of us
has an unbeliever close in our vicinity, and that unbeliever
is our responsibility. And so let us pray, and let's place
the lives of those unbelievers in the hands of Our Lady because
only with Our Lady can they be converted and brought to Jesus.
I'd like to greet you most warmly again, and I hope that
I was able to bring Medjugorje a little closer to you. But
I always say it is not always the same thing to talk about
Medjugorje as it is to experience it. It's different when
you come to that hill yourself, and it's different when you
enter into the church yourself, but I hope that I at least
somewhat succeeded in bringing it closer to you. And tomorrow
morning we will be together again.
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